Depends on the bar they're using for victory. I mean, they can't be judging on both ability to win the marathon and ability to fail the marathon.

[Davesprite is probably looking way too far into the Schrodinger's win issue here, but hey, it's the kind of thing he latches on to when it's other people bringing that sort of thing up for once instead of him.

With a rather broad shrug, Davesprite stretches his wings as if the fight has made them stiff.]

Don't say that in front of the people who think you can't have done shit without destroying yourself for it.