"Well..." Ken tries to think of a way to articulate what he means. "Axel-sama and Roy-sama took care of us, and they took care of themselves, and they knew what they were doing and how to take care of themselves and stuff. They didn't need us for all that much unless they asked for us...they took care of themselves, and us. But with Hakkai-sama...he's kinda dumb sometimes, byon. Or he messes up. It feels like we're helping him, too, more than with our other gods." He pauses, then amends, "Except for Nanako-sama. But she's a little kid, byon. She was always gonna need people looking out for her 'cause she's too young."

Ken looks up at Chikusa. "It feels like Hakkai-sama needs us more. That's different, right? He feels like a person, not like a god."

Ken's not articulating what he means as well as he might want, perhaps, but he's hoping Chikusa understands him.