Sure, but I don't know if I'd call the mortal world and the afterlife different places. You know, not completely, anyway. It's all part of the same, the same-- [He puts his plate down to interleave his own fingers, trying to demonstrate the interconnectedness of it all.]

... the same thing.

Like the mortal and divine worlds here. Not everybody can cross over, but if you put up a wall around your house, it's not a different world just because you only let some people in, right? And you still hear things from outside and breathe the same air.

[He's tipsy enough to get lost in the metaphor, and he trails off, frowning.]