[That explains the mention of corruption in the story, then. Shun can't even say it wasn't a smart tactic, either, even if it was obviously dirty. Even not knowing the person in question, he knows it must've taken a lot of strength to accept those things and win, especially if the manipulation did work for a while.

Honestly, he looks just as confused as Ren about the aftermath. He supposes he can see some sense of what he means, but when it happens in his world usually it's because someone reached out and didn't let up until their message had made it through, rather than it happening through a victory pure and simple. And it's not even like it's a rare thing in his world, either.]

Maybe it was because both of you were using that power. If he could overcome it and accept it, maybe losing to it like that had an effect on you and yours. [He definitely doesn't sound sure about that, though, since he's basically spitballing here.]