-Overflow- for 24 - Autumn Reception

[godsoffortune]

Who: Everyone!
What: Autumn Reception
When: September 30, 6 PM
Where: The Gods' Meeting Hall
Summary: The Heavens are throwing a formal party! Old and new gods alike are invited, so put on your nicest outfits and some good dancing shoes, and come see what this shindig is all about.

Continuing from HERE!

Comments

[revolutionfalcon]

It depends on why you think it is they "must" fight there. Not everyone would agree. [Regardless of other factors, all beings have some kind of bias. The old gods here have proved, if nothing else, that gods aren't beyond that.]

[nibelungvalesti]

Preventing the end of the world is usually a good motivation. Whatever people fight for, it tends to rely on a world existing for those fights to have any meaning. And Ragnarok is inevitable.

[revolutionfalcon]

So you're asking them to prevent something you say is inevitable. [He puts that in a somewhat dry tone, because he imagines the very concept of an impending doom that's inevitable would be enough to have many people turning that position down.]

[nibelungvalesti]

[His comment elicits the faint confusion from her that is the Valkyrie's equivalent of great surprise.]

Ragnarok cannot be prevented. But it can be won.

[revolutionfalcon]

And how many people die anyway in the crossfire? [There's some bitterness from Shun at that. A conflict that can't be prevented, but only won doesn't sit right with him given his history, and he can't imagine he'd be the only one.]

[nibelungvalesti]

...Ideally, none. If the Aesir are strong enough to contain the Vanir and their Jotun allies, it is likely Midgard would know nothing of the battle. Should we fail, however...

[revolutionfalcon]

Then people start dying. [Shun doesn't know a great deal about Ragnarok, but even if he might have the end of the world in the general sense wrong, it certainly sounds like losing it means that end.]

[nibelungvalesti]

To put it mildly. Existence ends. Creation collapses. People cease existing.

[Very few people consider that a goal not worth fighting to prevent.]

[revolutionfalcon]

So people would want to fight. But not necessarily as gods.

[Because the root of the problem was, really, that not everyone is going to want to be "ascended" after their death, regardless of training.]

[nibelungvalesti]

Be that as it may, they have no other options. As we are discussing dead people, either they ascend to Valhalla to live and eventually fight as gods, or I remit them to Hel's domain, where they can do naught but wait, powerless.

[revolutionfalcon]

Then it sounds like whoever started that system cares more about appearances than actually winning.

[Like a certain other Heaven he can think of. He might not be versed in matters of heavenly bureaucracy from his world, but he's starting to pick up a pattern here.]

[nibelungvalesti]

Perhaps in a more ideal world, the Aesir and Vanir would never have been opposed to begin with. [She does not shrug, but her tone means she doesn't really need to. The point is academic.]

[revolutionfalcon]

No world is ideal. [Shun's already reconciled himself with that, so he does shrug at the notion.

He's been in one place a bit too long here, though, and he's not particularly fond of that in a crowd like this, so he starts to turn away now that it seems they've come to some kind of consensus.]

I've got more old gods to keep an eye on. [Or an ear on, particularly.]

[nibelungvalesti]

Far from it. Perhaps the lack of divine presence in Midgard is a contributor to that.

[Or the Far Shore; she is using the term interchangeably here, knowing what she means and not thinking that she might inadvertently be confusing. But to his response, she merely nods.]

If you discover anything, kindly share it.

[revolutionfalcon]

[Shun has his doubts about how much divine presence accounts for, but as it is, he just shrugs and starts to head off.]

If it's important. [He has his doubts anyone will be discussing anything of use here, but he can try.]

[nibelungvalesti]

[Well, obviously. Why would he share something unimportant? Why would anyone share something unimportant with her?]

[Mortals, she musesas they part ways, are strange.]