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Shun Kurosaki ([personal profile] revolutionfalcon) wrote in [community profile] thenearshore2016-12-01 10:31 pm

[Closed] What happens in fight club stays in fight club...

Who: Shun and Ren
What: Card game assholes antiheroes have a post-fighting-lesson sleepover and talk about their respective dark pasts.
When: May 20th
Where: Nekhbet's Temple
Warnings: Discussion of war and likely PTSD and survivor's guilt at some point, others will be added if they come up.

[Shun and Ren's fighting lessons have become basically routine at this point, every three days like clockwork that's only thrown out of time by the few occasions Shun has to work, in which case it's picked up the next day and the cycle continues. Not even the more brutal lesson on the fourteenth had managed to stop the following one falling in line, and now it's the one after that, and as always, Shun's demanding a rest period afterwards to be sure he doesn't send Ren back out weak enough to make easy pickings.

This time, though, is a little different, because he's not sending Ren back out, and though they discussed this extensively enough a few days ago when Ren suggested it, Shun doesn't really get what the difference between a sleepover and sharing quarters with his allies is. But there is definitely one thing they agreed on when it came to "getting to know each other better", and after coming across from the tiny kitchen with both a jug of water and a pot of the most obnoxiously strong black coffee imaginable, cups already on the little coffee table in the other room, Shun drains a glass of water in about two and a half seconds before he switches to the coffee and gives his guest a level look.]


You did better today than last lesson, but I'd be surprised if you wanted to discuss something that obvious.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
[This is probably not the best time to be smiling and blase about things, but he can't really help it. Everything had turned out fine in the end and Aichi had only been addicted to Psyqualia for a few weeks, and if he can't laugh at himself once in a while for how awful he'd been, it'll just make him more miserable in the end, really.]

Oh, he gave into it too, for a while. I encouraged him. I knew it would hurt Kai, and...I really liked knowing there was someone else. Not just because I felt like it proved I was right; it was just nice not being alone. And he was really something to watch while he was addicted to it.

[There is maybe a tiny part of him that's disappointed he'll never get to see or fight that Aichi again. It's better for Aichi and everyone else this way, and it's not like Aichi isn't stronger than almost anyone in his own right, but...it really had been something to see.]

Kai was strong enough by then to beat him and knock some sense into him, though. So he did surpass it eventually. And then Kai decided that because he could do that, he was strong enough to challenge me again too.

[He pauses and thoughtfully taps his chin.]

And that's about where I was when you showed up the other day.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm, Kai tried really hard, too. I tried to make it up to him later.

[It's not really relevant to this particular conversation to mention he failed, though.]

I was really angry with both of them for rejecting me, so I did want to destroy Aichi-kun during that fight, like I said. And during the fight, I decided the best way to do that was make him become what he hated again.

I think I said in the story it didn't work but...it did, for a little while. But he decided he could accept his darkness and me, and he won.

[He pauses again and makes a slightly confused face at his coffee, because he's not actually sure where to go from that. That was the end of it and he was better after that, but it wasn't really because Aichi had reached out to him or because Kai was waiting for him. It had just...happened, really.]

And then I'm not really sure what happened. We were both using our power, so it made things weird...It felt like I was just pulled out of it. Or maybe like my anger just got pulled out of me. Suddenly I could see clearly what I'd been doing and how I'd been hurting my friends and how much more fun it had been before...it was like waking up from a bad dream because someone threw water in my face.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe. Or maybe it was his wish and something granted it because he won.

[Either or those thing sound like a perfectly reasonable possibility to him, because he really has no idea what it was. Aichi's unit had been there and done something...but that isn't much more of an explanation.]

I do think that was had something to do with it. We both lost it for a little while after that, so maybe that was it too.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure. [Because Vanguard's timeline is stupid and makes no sense.] I'd actually forgotten I'd even had it when I got it again, and even though I remember now, some of my memories are still a little fuzzy.

[Yeah, that's about as helpful as he can be on that front. He'd love to have a better answer too, because then maybe he could figure out what it was that let Aichi have peace with himself, but he's thought about it enough that he's sure he won't be getting the answer any time soon.

At Shun's mention of card spirit, though, he lights right up, brighter than he has been all day much less during the last while.
]

Really? In my world--well, Vanguard's lore is based around another planet, and most people don't know it, but that planet is a real place. That was what Psyqualia was supposed to be for, I think: connecting us with that planet. So if our units are real, then maybe your spirits are too.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
[Ren perks up again like he might ask something, but then stops short of actually saying it. Which is stupid, frankly, because he's already taken Hibari there, and he likes Hibari significantly less than Shun. And he trusts Shun more, especially now that he knows exactly how significant it would be.

But he just can't get that offer out of his throat and into the air. Maybe it's because of Shun comments about his willpower, maybe it's because reliving his experience with Psyqualia again has reminded him just how stupid it had been to give in and introduce Hibari to it in the first place....

He really would love to show Shun what Cray was like, though...

He finally shakes his head a little and smiles to try to just move on like nothing had happened.
]

Maybe they're just hiding from you. Or maybe you can't notice them unless you're really looking for them, the way we are now.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
[Ren looks just as unconvinced that these card spirits definitely don't exists just because Shun hasn't heard of anyone really meeting one, but it's pretty clear they have completely different perspectives on that possibility too. It's too bad there's probably no way of ever finding out for sure.

He's more than happy to move on, though, especially if it's time for Shun's turn. He does his best not too look too excited (which isn't too hard, if he's honest, because his mood is still dampened a bit from his own retelling and he knows this is something that should be treated seriously), but he does smile a little as he nods and shifts a little in his seat to get more comfortable.
]

I still have a few stories, but that's the end of that one. I can tell you the other ones another time.
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-03 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
[Oh hey, that sure is Shun's phone coming at him. Ren carefully moves his lukewarm, half-empty coffee to where he won't accidentally know it over and slides the phone off the table to cradle it in his lap. He smiles a little as he studies the photo and listens to Shun talk about working to become a pro. Ruri looks like a lot of fun, and he'll definitely have to get Shun to make that face again...but seeing Yuto looking that same as ever sends a cold squirm through the pit of his stomach. It was one thing knowing that Yuto had been Shun's friend; it was different seeing it and knowing Shun has a picture of it....

The change in Shun's tone bring him back from his half-listening, half-musing state, although he keep his eyes down at the phone in his lap for now, not really seeing it as he tries to see the scene Shun is describing instead. It's more familiar than Shun would probably guess, and he makes a mental note not to get too playful if he ever tells Shun about the Link Joker invasion.

That had only lasted a few days, though, and the main invasion had only been for a few hours. If that had lasted for years...
]

We have pro fighters too. I get asked a lot if I'm going to go pro after I graduate, even though I already have Foo Fighter...

[And two National Championships and the last High School Championship...he's about as close to being a pro as he can get without it being official.

He carefully sets Shun's phone back on the table, folds his hands in his lap where he can keep them to himself, and finally looks up at Shun. Even just that little bit to start with already explains a lot about him.
]

You're still here, so you must have found a way to fight back.

[It obviously wasn't as easy as all that, though.]
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-04 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
[As he listens, the first thing Ren wants to ask is "why?" But more specifically, "why did they want to fuse to dimensions together?" Creating ways to go between them, he can see, but merging them together seems messy and pointless and disruptive for everyone involved. He can only imagine the chaos if someone tried that with Earth and Cray. But that seems like a question better saved for the end.

It isn't all that surprising that they would have sought to gain the power of their enemies, or that Shun was the only one of the three people in that picture to use it. Yuto, at least, had never struck him as someone who would be comfortable with that kind of tactic. That quality was one reason Ren liked him so much, honestly.

But that's not to say that he likes Shun less after hearing what he was willing to do. Maybe if he had done it because he'd genuinely thought it was fun and still did...but that's obviously not the case. And that was a pretty noble cause. Although he does think it's a miracle he hasn't scared Shun off yet, if that was what his enemies were like...

And then he gets to Ruri.

Admittedly, his first thought is to wonder if the mole had been killed or sealed into a card, because he sure as hell wouldn't blame Shun if he'd done either. The second is wondering how poorly Shun might react if he scooted over and grabbed his hand. He'll admit, he's not usually the most touchy person and neither is Shun, but if there's any time Shun could probably use it...
]

It's really awful, isn't it? Feeling like that. [Maybe if he scoots over a little under the pretense of sliding the phone back along the table...

But once he settles again, he keeps his hands in his lap. For now.
]

Did you find out what you needed to know?

["Did you get her back?" is what he really want to know, but he's not sure he should ask that, just in case he didn't.]
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-04 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
[Ren sits up a little with a small "oh!" as Shun goes on. That sounds familiar! he doesn't even wait for Shun to get to a a break--pretty much as soon as he takes a pause for breath, Ren briefly interjects:]

That's the guy you mentioned before, when you said you liked me better!

[That is a pretty generous way of putting what Shun had actually said at the time, but judging by that and his tone here, it's not wrong either. And that also his only interjection for now, because he's quite interested to hear what it is exactly about this guy that makes him so much worse--well, it would seem Shun will be getting to that bit later.

Ren winces a little himself as Shun mention how he turned on Yuto. There's one more thing they have in common...how many times had he thought back to that while Ren had been telling his story? It must have been at least once or twice...

Aaaand a lot of that just brings up a lot of questions, but he doesn't really want to derail Shun and Shun obviously doesn't want to derail himself, so those will just have to wait. anyway, he really is more interested in this other guy Shun said he didn't like as much. Ren scoots over a fraction more and leans forward so he can see Shun's face a little better.
]

Was he really that bad? [Like, are you really trying to say that having to work with this guy was almost as bad as threatening to cut down your friend.] If he wasn't an enemy, and he had the resources and motivation to help you...
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-04 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[...Okay, he can see now that being more tolerable than this Akaba Reiji wasn't actually that high a bar to pass...

It takes him a moment to remember where he's heard the name "Yuya" before, and he can't quite keep himself from frowning as he finally remembers Yuto's post a week or so ago about losing another god. There was no saying that was the same Yuya, but hopefully that Yuya kept his mouth shut all the same.

As Shun goes on, Ren an't help but feel like that's a little familiar too. What Aichi had done hadn't quite been the same--Ren had at least been aware of what happened and it wasn't like he'd died--but at the time, it had still felt like he was losing him forever. At least Shun had been able to see Yuto again too, even if--

He frowns a little at Shun's tense fingers as he reaches the end. That...wasn't how Yuto had died...? Unless Shun had just been seeing things...but he would know if it was really Yuto's spirit better than anyone...so maybe something had happened to both of them later...?

He isn't really sure what to say to any of that. It's all very confusing, and Shun probably wouldn't appreciate brainstorming the finer details of how Yuto might have come to be here. But this does finally seem like the right time for another response. He finally reaches out take one of his hands and slips his fingers between Shun's
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...I thought I lost one of my friends for a while too. Not because he died, but...it was supposed to be something just as permanent. If I hadn't known what had happened or had a chance to say goodbye...

[Well, it would have been awful and he can't blame Aichi for wanting to spare everyone that awfulness.]

What did you find in Synchro? It seems weird he would want to go there first, unless it was to help give the others more experience?
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
[To be honest, he did expect Shun to flinch a little--even if he weren't in the middle of relieving some traumatic experiences, that's just the kind of person he is. He also half-expected Shun to pull away from it, so when he doesn't, Ren can't help but feel a tiny bit delighted and he gives Shun's hand a light squeeze as he goes on.

He give a long, skeptical sounding hum at the idea that Akaba had planned on everyone being split up on arrival. Deciding to do it after arrival, maybe, but having no chance to take in the situation together or make arrangements to meet up again...that sounds more like he wasn't familiar enough with the technology he was trying to use.

He rest his chin in his other hand and his elbow on his knee as Shun starts to describe Synchro, and his expression grows more closed off the more Shun talks about it. Especially when he gets to the council and Ren hums again, this time in disapproval. He's unfortunately met a few of that exact type of person--people who wouldn't lift a finger unless it benefited them personally somehow. He tried not to do business with them as much as possible, but there was only so much he and Tetsu could do sometimes.
]

That's not surprising. They were probably afraid you might do something they wouldn't like if you could talk to each other and work together.

[The way Shun tenses up again is a little uncomfortable, but Ren still eaves his hand right where it is for now.]

Was that when he told you he was the spy? [Since it didn't sound like it had been that first duel.] How much did you make him regret it?
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[personal profile] shadowrevenger 2016-12-05 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
[Well, he can't really blame Shun for reacting like that to a spy and traitor, either for the amount of violence or trying to seal him in a card. Hopefully no one had been hurt but...well, it wasn't like his anger at Kai for supposedly betraying him had come from nowhere.

But he is glad that Shun didn't stay in that state of distrust forever, for his own good and everyone else's.

A smile slowly forms on his face as Shun talks about Crow and the children...at least until he mentions the D-Wheels and then Ren spends most of the rest of staring blankly through his face while his smile fades away as he tries to work out what the heck that is. Because he knows what it sounds like, but he's having a really hard time imagining that that's actually what it is.
]

...Wait, what's a D-Wheel?

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